Compare Disc Golf Discs
Pick two or more discs and see exactly how they differ - flight, feel, distance, and price, side by side.
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Launch Disc GolfCipherFairway Driver8/4/-1/2
Legacy DiscsPhenomFairway Driver8/5/-1/2
Cipher vs Phenom
How Cipher and Phenom compare on flight numbers, feel, distance, and price.
Key differences
GlideCipher 4 vs Phenom 5Diameter21.6 vs 21.2 cm (+0.4)Height1.8 vs 1.7 cm (+0.1)
Flight Paths
Overhead view · right-hand backhand
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Launch Disc GolfCipherFairway DriverOut of Production Legacy DiscsPhenomFairway Driver Flight Numberslonger bar = more of that trait
Flight rating≠
8/4/-1/2
8/5/-1/2
Stability
Stable (+1)
Stable (+1)
Beginner score≠
43/100
45/100
Type
Fairway Driver
Fairway Driver
Recommended skill
Everyone
Everyone
On Amazon
Not on Amazon
Not on Amazon
Production status≠
Out of production
In production
Price from≠
Not listed
$17.49
Flight rating≠8/4/-1/2
StabilityStable (+1)
Beginner score≠43/100
Est. carry≠342 ft
TypeFairway Driver
Recommended skillEveryone
Diameter≠21.6 cm
Height≠1.8 cm
Rim depth1.2 cm
Rim width1.8 cm
Max weight≠179.3 g
BeadBeadless
Plastics0
PDGA Approved≠No
On AmazonNot on Amazon
Production status≠Out of production
Price from≠Not listed
Flight rating≠8/5/-1/2
StabilityStable (+1)
Beginner score≠45/100
Est. carry≠350 ft
TypeFairway Driver
Recommended skillEveryone
Diameter≠21.2 cm
Height≠1.7 cm
Rim depth1.2 cm
Rim width1.8 cm
Max weight≠176 g
BeadBeadless
Plastics0
PDGA Approved≠Yes
On AmazonNot on Amazon
Production status≠In production
Price from≠$17.49
The Verdict
Cipher or Phenom?
Main difference: glide (Cipher 4 vs Phenom 5). The Phenom floats and carries farther; the Cipher holds its line better in wind.
Cipher: StablePhenom: Stable
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FAQ
Is the Cipher or Phenom more overstable?
They are equally stable (both +1) - turn -1/-1, fade 2/2.
Should a beginner pick the Cipher or Phenom?
A beginner is better off with the Phenom (beginner score 45/100 vs 43/100) - lower speed and more turn make it easier to control.
What is the difference between the Cipher and Phenom?
Main difference: glide (Cipher 4 vs Phenom 5). The Phenom floats and carries farther; the Cipher holds its line better in wind.
